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Foreign Trainers in Thailand?

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poondaddy (604 days ago)
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#1
6:32 - 21st Aug 2012
Interested in people thoughts. There’s a few out there now.

Nugget residing in Elite, Kevin at KC, Richie Green at Phuket Top Team, Andy at Lana, Dan at Fighting Spirit to name a few.

And judging from comments in another thread, not appreciated by some.

Would you avoid a gym because of them? Or would you go because of them?
 
#2
6:36 - 21st Aug 2012
Wouldn't say never ever but none of the mentioned would make me go to their gym.
 
#3
6:55 - 21st Aug 2012
I come to Thailand to learn from the Thai's. Working with a foreigner for any longer than a day (say if they were just covering for a trainer who couldn't make it in) would turn me off the gym.
 
#4
7:30 - 21st Aug 2012
So just because someone is a farang you wouldn't train with them?
Does it matter if they're showing you good technique ect?
Plenty of crap thai trainers out there.
 
#5
9:02 - 21st Aug 2012
Yeah, don't think it matters. Trained with Shuki Rosenszweig and have had pads held by farrang at a few gyms. Same experience as with Thais- mixed. A decent trainer is a decent trainer. Personally I think its good to have a bit of Western mentality/knowledge in a gym as long as the training etc is still authentic and up to scratch.
 
#6
9:19 - 21st Aug 2012
^^^^^+1
I would have thought the whole idea of going to Thailand is to be able to train as often as you want and rest inbetween without having to go to work.
To be able to soak up the whole atmosphere of the place.
Personally I would much rather train with a good farang trainer that speaks the same languauge than a shit Thai trainer that doesn't and come to that even a great thai trainer that can't explain technique to me.
I really can't understand this whole "i don't go all the way to thailand to train with a farang" attitude.
If that's the case why train back home with a farang?
 
#7
9:44 - 21st Aug 2012
true, and a lot of westerners come all the way to thailand and train beside losts of other westerners and search out western comforts, eat western food etc.
 
#8
10:40 - 21st Aug 2012
i would certainly have no problem working with a western trainer... alot of the best stuff i have learned has come from good western trainers...a combination of decent thais to spar/clinch with and a good western trainer to do pads/advice on technique would be a good mix, especially for beginners i would think...but i suspect a lot of people would automatically not want to work with a non-native...
 
#9
11:05 - 21st Aug 2012
depends who and what they are showing.
some can be good, some can be shit.

nugget must have something as hes had over 50 fights and produced a fair few champs in aussie.
 
#10
11:16 - 21st Aug 2012
depends who and what they are showing.
some can be good, some can be shit.

nugget must have something as hes had over 50 fights and produced a fair few champs in aussie.
 
#11
11:38 - 21st Aug 2012
I would only train with the Master instructor at Tenchu Gym.
 
#12
12:00 - 21st Aug 2012
Quote: Blake
depends who and what they are showing.
some can be good, some can be shit.

nugget must have something as hes had over 50 fights and produced a fair few champs in aussie.

Yes, but it's so easy for outsider to fall into turd bucket. It would be easier to find an acceptable Thai trainer. But I can't argue that when you're beginner, it's easier to grasp what to know from trainer who speaks your language.
Quote: damiant
i would certainly have no problem working with a western trainer... alot of the best stuff i have learned has come from good western trainers...a combination of decent thais to spar/clinch with and a good western trainer to do pads/advice on technique would be a good mix, especially for beginners i would think...but i suspect a lot of people would automatically not want to work with a non-native...

Good post.
 
#13
12:01 - 21st Aug 2012
is that for his power hitting secrets? or his strength and conditioning routines?
 
#14
12:11 - 21st Aug 2012
Quote: Elby

I really can't understand this whole "i don't go all the way to thailand to train with a farang" attitude.
If that's the case why train back home with a farang?

And why not train back home and save frustration? For beginer, you can advance more rapidly with one on one training, twice a day, and for advance competitor, you can learn clinch techniques that very few farang trainers in Thailand can give advice on effective strategy..
 
#15
12:15 - 21st Aug 2012
i still think most falang would be better to get a base at a good muaythai gym in their home country. you see a fair few who start in thailand and get smashed when back home as they lack some of the skills required for fighting westerners.
 
#16
5:02 - 22nd Aug 2012
Quote: Elby
So just because someone is a farang you wouldn't train with them?
Does it matter if they're showing you good technique ect?
Plenty of crap thai trainers out there.


Theres a lot of people out there that would rather spend time pretending they are Thai or thinking they are going to be the only farang the Thai people "accept" than actually training and trying to improve their muay Thai.
 
#17
7:04 - 22nd Aug 2012
^^^very true
Or re-invented themselves when they get there, I've lost count of how many people out there that work in an office in the UK but turn into a secret agent when they get to thailand.
I wonder how many would go if Thailand was freezing cold and had no beaches, bars or bar girls.
Really it's a bit crazy MT has been in the UK for over 30 years.
Boxing originated in the UK but I wouldn't go train with Freddie Roach cos it didn't originate in his country so he must know fuck all
 
#18
7:48 - 22nd Aug 2012
pretty sure boxing originated with the greek olympics
 
#19
8:34 - 22nd Aug 2012
That's Greco wrestling :)
Maybe it did but the Marquis of Queensbury set the rules
 
#20
9:22 - 22nd Aug 2012
Quote: Blake

(1) I still think most falang would be better to get a base at a good muaythai gym in their home country.
(2) You see a fair few who start in thailand and get smashed when back home as they lack some of the skills required for fighting westerners.

(1) I concur, providing the trainer is very good and attentive.
(2) I assume that very guy would get bashed, even if he started back home.
 
#21
9:26 - 22nd Aug 2012
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing

but yeah marquis of queensbury was the beginning of modern boxing as we know it today
 
#22
10:04 - 22nd Aug 2012
yes and before that is wasn't really boxing, it was killing someone using your hands only.
 
#23
10:18 - 22nd Aug 2012
Quote: Blake
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing

but yeah marquis of queensbury was the beginning of modern boxing as we know it today

Quote: Elby
yes and before that is wasn't really boxing, it was killing someone using your hands only.

Damned! And I've been believing that boxing began with the Boxing Day lol.
 
#24
12:37 - 22nd Aug 2012
^^^ derrrrr it's called boxing day cos it's the day you put all ya shit presents back in the box and throw them in the shed
 
#25
14:40 - 22nd Aug 2012
just pulling leg.
 

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