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Don't you love the women on TV who almost deafen you with their super "KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"... sounds like a kitten getting it's balls ripped off...
Euro hasn't changed too much. You get 5Baht less per euro. Not massive but not great. Its still cheap as chips though as you can do allot more with 100 baht here than you can at home with 10€ or even 15€.
hi everyone im gaz from uk im thinking selling flat packing job up going to thailand to train but im old man 39 whats everyone think with young body and mind
Mam and Lai are great trainers. Lai spent alot of time after training sessions were finished teaching and then refining my wai kru.
[quote=phalnax]I'm a huge TMT fan. Great trainers, great management and if you want to fight they match you up well and make SURE you're ready.[/quote]
Sure they will match you well!!!
That is you gonna get some fat thai that sells sunglasses on patong beach or drives tuk-tuk by daytime and dives in the ring once a week for some extra cash.
Yeah mate, sure TMT will match you well. good luck with your fights!
WTF happened to my picture? Dave?
So this is how it begins...
nice review !
they will never see me there :-)
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PRESS RELEASE
Gooddogfilms.com, the makers of Fight or Flight, have taken the form of film finance a step further. The production costs for the film were funded by several re-mortgages, bank loans, credit cards, family and friends. Five years on, the gamble has paid off and some are hailing the result as “One of the most significant and psychological martial arts documentary feature films made to date”.
Based in South East Asia, the film not only explores martial arts but is an in-depth study of conflict in the mind and conflict in the world
Fight or flight is a feature film based on man’s conflict with the world told through Muay Thai Boxing. The film premiered at the DOCNZ International Documentary Film Festival Docnz.org.nz in Auckland, New Zealand in September 2007 and toured the entire country until November. Gooddogfilms.com have had much interest since the production began regarding the availability of this feature film and are now pleased to be able to offer it to the international community through the website www.fightorflight.tv .
Fight or Flight has been supported by the Muay Thai Community in Thailand, the Buddhist community in Thailand, the martial arts international community as well as various international social / spiritual individuals and organisations. The Irish Film Board supported the completion of the project and for practical reasons the production company has decided to distribute the film online. Fight or Flight is available for the first time on www.fightorflight.TV as of November 2007.
no not at all if he stays standing he gets the score if they both fall the one that lands on top gets the score
Not maybe; probably.
2 votes to tenchu and his wanger waving friends in the toilets....
come on people get voting!!!
yeh good work man. thats with 5 reps right?
The amount of muscles involved in a deadlift is something like 14. Its mainly quads, but alot of good benefit for hammies, lower back, core etc.
My friend Jeremy had a Thai Boxing match at Lanna -shortly before I got there- but got mismatched and put against a very experienced fighter. During the beating that followed Jeremy broke a rib. Therefore he was told he couldn't train for two months after the fight. It was getting really depressing for him to have to sit around all day whilst everyone else was going to training all the time and he said he was off to go to another country for a bit so he could see something different. He said he was off to Cambodia and I thought Yeah I think I'll do that too. The reason for this is because I wanted to be able to say I'd been somewhere else other than Chiang Mai in my whole time here.
So we started sorting out what we'd need to do to be able to go. We got tickets down to Bangkok and sent our passports off with the travel agents so they we'd get VISAs for Cambodia. Our bus left the next evening. Travel is so cheap in Thailand. To go the 700 km from Chiang Mai to Bangkok in a great big air-conditioned coach with a TV cost us 4 quid each. It took ten hours to get there and we arrived by Kosahn Road at about 6:00am. We got a room in a hotel up Kosahn Road as we had to stay there for three nights whilst we waited for our passports to be returned. Those three day days and nights seemed SO long it was unbelievable.
I really don't like Bangkok at all. I'm glad I've been though as I now have a valid opinion if someone asks me what it's like. There wasn't one thing I liked about it. For a start Kosahn road is like traveler's central, everyone who is a tourist stays there. So there's more white people than Thais all over the place and all the Thais who are there are just trying to sell you something. Because there's so many tourists all the prices are five times more than in Chiang Mai and there's so much smog and dirt everywhere it makes your eyes water. And Tuk Tuk drivers never take you where you want to go, instead they take you to these gem shops and tailor shops that they get commission for bringing foreigners to.
We were walking up Kosahn Road at 2 in the afternoon one day just looking about and there's just hundreds of white people drinking beer and eating Western food whilst watching American films. I tried to sleep 18 hours a day just so I didn't have to go out the hotel. I tried to pass as much time away writing e-mails and things but even the internet cost 5 times as much. The biggest contrast in prices was the internet at the station in Bangkok cost 4 baht a minute. One of the places in Chiang Mai cost 8 baht an hour! It was actually the first time I'd felt any sort of homesickness as I wanted to be back in Chiang Mai so much. Sleeping all day and eating crappy food really makes you feel bad, especially if you're used to training and things all the time. And I REALLY wanted to go to the swimming pool, but alas, it was over 700 km away.
The one good thing we did was go and watch a night of Thai Boxing at the Ratchamadam Stadium, the second biggest Muay Thai stadium in Bangkok. The first being Lampini, though there weren't any fights on there that night. Ratchamadam was cool as there were some really good fighters and afterwards we looked round the Muay Thai shop next door and I bought a SPLENDID pair of Red Bull Muay Thai shorts. Afterwards we walked the four miles home because we just couldn't be bothered with Tuk Tuk drivers.
AT LAST our passports were delivered to us and we were able to go and get a train to the border. The 6 hour journey in third class cost us about 1 pound 50 each. Plus there was hardly anyone in the carriage for nearly all the way and all the windows are open so you can stick your head out. This was when we could see what 95 per cent of Thailand REALLY looks like. It's all just miles and miles of marshes, paddy fields and forests and is all so green and flat. And very peaceful.
Then at the station we got a tuk tuk to the actual border. This was where we had to be aware of things. Neither of us had ever been to Cambodia before and so had no idea what to expect. The border is basically a bridge with little office buildings at either end and hundreds of people walking across both ways. There seems to be no organization at all except for a few policemen stood about the place. If you are Thai or Cambodian you can pass across without any problem but if you are a tourist then you must check in at Tourist Control and get your VISA stamped and things like that.
As soon as you arrive loads of men run over and start offering you rides to Siam Reap, the nearest main city. We'd been warned about this though as what happens sometimes is they give you a ridiculously cheap price, you get in their truck, they drive about 40 miles out and then just stop and demand more money or else you'll just have to get out and walk. Then they do this again and again. I'd also been told -and this was just common sense too- never, I say NEVER let anyone take your bag for you, especially when you're all getting onto a truck. That'll almost certainly be the last you ever see of THAT if you do.
One of the guys told us he was part of a government based organization set up to make sure tourists get to Siam Reap safely and direct. His ID looked more fake than the card I had at college but he showed us the office and the other people in the group and after a bit we believed him. It was a relief to see other travelers there as well, even if they were as confused as us.
After a bit of waiting we got into a truck and started the 6 hour drive across what seems to be the only road in the whole of Cambodia. Not only is it the only road but it is the worst road, quite possibly in the world. It's like it was made for BMX races or something though it would have been too dangerous for that as loads of the pot holes were big enough to swallow a bus. You can't relax on a journey like that as the jeep is throwing you about all over the place the whole time. But it wasn't too bad though as we could look at the landscape.
Like Thailand it was completely flat with marshy paddy fields everywhere as far as you could see. Little trees were dotted every now and then but there were no forests or anything. The road, the one single road that started from the border and never had a junction with any other road for the whole way, just went straight into the distance right into the horizon.
There were these little hills that just stuck up from no-where in the distance and there were also thunder storms sweeping across the land miles and miles away. At one point on the left hand side it was blue sky and sun and on the right it was black and tipping it down. That looked pretty smart, until we drove through the storm and had to go off road to take a detour at one bit because a bridge ahead had collapsed and washed away. Never a good thing.
AT LONG LAST, when it was pitch black, we FINALLY reached Siam Reap where we were taken to a hotel. We didn't have any choice in the matter but it was a decent place and we were knackered so we didn't care. Just 5 dollars a night. The actual currency in Cambodia is riel but they prefer American dollars a lot more. They only use riel if they have to give change for a dollar. Riel's one of these currencies which is like ten billion to the pound so they try not to use it if possible.
I will tell you a bit about Cambodia as you may well not know. It is an extremely poor country and suffered civil war during the 70s and 80s when the Khama Rouge, led by Pol Pot, started a genocide that killed nearly 2 million of the population. Pol Pot was trying to make a pure race of people who would all be equal and this involved killing everyone who was educated in some way, all monks and other people of religion, all ethnic minorities, and basically anyone else who got in the way. He also abolished currency and markets which caused massed starvation. He died three years ago (1998).
Cambodia is only really starting to recover now and the country is still in a very bad state. Everywhere you go there are beggars and deformed kids and poverty. There's also a lot of people without a leg or an arm. This is because of land mines, which are everywhere. So much of the land that could be used for farming is desolate because of the estimated 6 million landmines still laying in the ground somewhere, just waiting.
There are organizations set up for clearing them but at the rate they are doing it it's predicted it would take 100 years to do them all. More often than not, a mine is only discovered when a kid or a farmer treads on it. It was a bit eerie in Siam Reap because you suddenly realize that there seem to be hardly any old people about. Everyone is in their 30s or younger as during the Khama Rouge's reign they killed so many people. Virtually everyone we met in Cambodia would have lost most of their family during that time.
But despite all this the Cambodian people are all very friendly and positive. I have some advice if you are thinking about going to Cambodia any time, take a lot of money. It is a very poor country but for a tourist it is extremely expensive, especially compared to Thailand. Up the road from us there was a hotel that cost 1500 dollars a night. Then round the back of that there's like this shanty town. It's a weird place.
I woke up the next day, opened my curtains and saw 50 crocodiles looking at me. The guy who owned the hotel also bred crocodiles in a pit right next to our room. They don't do very much at all and we were stood by the enclosure's wall for ages waiting for them to start moving but except for crawling from the ground into the pool and opening their mouths they did nothing.
I was thinking I would dare myself to climb in and run across the pit and back as the crocs weren't exactly very big and I thought a quick jab to the nose would send them back if they tried anything. But then I thought that's probably what they want me to do and were just waiting for the right time to jump me and have a taste of Young Dave that day. So I gave up on that idea.
Siam Reap was so different to what I have been used to. The road we were on was really busy but was covered in about an inch of dust so there was always a cloud hanging over it which got in your eyes and clothes every time you went outside. There is no public transport there, and tourists are not allowed to rent bikes. Therefore, the only way to get around is to hire a guide with a bike from the hotel for 6 dollars a day. That's what Jeremy and I did for three days.
The biggest tourist attraction in Cambodia is Angkor Wat, one of the 7 wonders of the ancient world. It is a massive temple that is over two thousand years old. There are also lots of other ruined temples as well. We went to all of them as they really were very cool. Some of the first Tomb Raider film was filmed in Angkor Wat. And in the film Kickboxer, the part where Van Damme is training in the temples, well that's one of them too.
Even the ancient temple drawn in the Jungle Book where the monkeys live is based on one of the temples we saw. They're like Aztec buildings or something as they are all covered in carvings of stories about wars and things and all of them have loads of carvings of the Buddha's face looking in every direction. In Angkor Wat there is a wall carving that is five meters high and 1km long. And the whole thing seems to be showing a war between men and an army of monkeys. Angkor Wat is like a city as it is surrounded by a massive moat and is absolutely huge.
The other temples however are much smaller and were used for ceremonial purposes and also to house a few monks. These temples are in the jungle and if you climb to the top of them (they're like pyramids and so are pretty high) you can look out over the jungle canopy and see for miles in every direction. And the view is virtually the same as to what the people who built it could see thousands of years ago. We stayed at the top of one of them for ages and I burnt my neck AGAIN. My skin must become fire proof soon as I keep burning the same bit.
The Temples were really cool and we saw them two days in a row. The thing is they cost a lot to see as you have to buy a pass to see them all. A one day pass costs 20 dollars per person. This, plus the price of the guides you have to have, really starts to add up fast. VERY fast in fact. And when your credit card says that you've borrowed your limits worth, THAT'S when you start to worry.
You see it's not that we're irresponsible with money. Jeremy had taken out 120 dollars before we came and my Credit Card was waiting until the credit was paid off in England before I could take any more out over here. Therefore, I had planned to borrow off Jeremy for a bit until I could withdraw myself. I had quite a bit of money in my wallet anyway so there wasn't a problem. BUT THEN at the Cambodian border Jeremy was told that he should have had his VISA stamped 1 and a half months ago.
If you don't know what I'm on about it doesn't matter but to sum it up Jeremy was fined 200 baht for everyday after he was late with his VISA. That added up to 8,500 baht, almost everything Jeremy had. He was pissed off, as anyone would be, 8,500 baht is almost 150 quid, but at least he could still borrow off me for the time being. Err, small problem, my card isn't working just yet. Hmm, oh well, it'll be working in the next day or two. I hoped.
Well it's not very exciting or anything so I'll just say that everything seemed to be going wrong like banks were closed, cheques were taking ages to be cleared and debts were mounting. All seemed a bit bleak as to be able to get the money we would have to be wait a few more days and I that would just increase the debts and also waist a load more time. In the end we were helped by a fantastic Canadian guy called Josh and his girlfriend Steph who, after I SWEET talked to them about all our problems, decided to lend us 3000 baht, about 50 quid. This was enough to get us sorted and to pay for our way home. Josh seemed more than happy to help where as Steph was a lot more cautious. We told them to come to Chiang Mai to the boxing camp in a few weeks and we'd pay them back and after swapping email addresses and things we went our separate ways. Ha ha, I'd given them a fake address so we'd never have to pay them back.
Only joking by the way. We were very grateful for their generosity and trust and I paid them back the second they arrived at the camp two weeks later. And they stayed for a bit too and watched a fight night at a fair as well.
Anyway...
One of the nights we were there our guides said that they would take us to their village as there was this annual festival thing happening. We drove the 15 km out of Siam Reap to this tiny little village miles from anywhere and then went to one of the guide's house. It was like a tree house on stilts as there's always flooding around there. All his family lived in this place which was just one big room. We bought a case of beer and drank it all between us. Lots of them spoke excellent English which is a good thing because my Cambodian really needs working on.
When we were all feeling happy and jolly we drove to the village center where every single person who lived in the area was. They were all dancing around the square to this dance music and everyone was going crazy because they were celebrating the day that their harvest started. Me and Jeremy were the only white people there and so were the center of attention from everyone. We were there for hours and I loved it. That was easily the best night in Cambodia.
So I've been an exclusive guest at a Cambodian Village Disco. Have you? Thought not.
Anyway, once we'd got our financial problems sorted we were able to try and get home.
The journey back was good simply because we knew we were going back to Chiang Mai. But it was also knackering as anything again. The six hours on the back of the truck were made that much more uncomfortable by the fact we had to share it with four other travelers, two families of Cambodians and three big bags of rice. Plus it wasn't direct so after a couple of hours we suddenly stopped in this really busy market place in some town and everyone was told to run to another truck which would take us to the border. No one was sure whether to believe them or not but we did and then it was just a couple more hours before we reached the border. I had the most bruised arse EVER after it being battered by the metal side of the truck for so many hours. Plus I was sat on a metal bolt the whole time which didn't help ANYTHING.
I'll tell you what, crossing the border and getting back to Thailand was a very good feeling, even if we still had to drive to the station, wait two hours for a train to Bangkok (covered in a thick layer of dust from the ride), sit 6 more hours on a train, find a travel agent, book coach tickets, get a hotel room, sleep a bit, then wait around all the next day until 5:00 when we got on the bus and had another 10 hour coach trip.
BUT WHEN we got to Chiang Mai, early the next morning and then got a tuk tuk to the Up North and TEN DAYS after we'd left were back in our old rooms and could take a shower and see people we knew and things, THEN it felt quite SUPER indeed. And to be able to go running and training after all that time, and to eat good CHEAP food again. Mmm, I was top of the world.
I'm really glad I went to Cambodia and everything but more than anything it made me appreciate Chiang Mai a whole lot more. When we do the mountain run we stop at this view point about half way up. From there you can see right across the valley and all of the city in it. Because we run early in the morning the sun is just rising and it all just looks amazing.
Next: Doi Inthernon 2001
i eat thai food 90% of the time here, the one benefit of a thai wife. it tastes better than the McThai shit that the restaurants try and pass off as thai.
i will ask her for some recipes if you want.
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Steven Hawkings after a few pints can be a right handful
Samart completely amazing
Saenchai incredible
Buakaw, I will probably get slated for saying him but someone above mentioned Johmod but Buakaw beat him a few years back as usual was able to move out of the way of Johmod when he came out in 1st round all guns blazing and put him down in 2nd i think it was.
Mind you didnt help him against Sato, but generally I found him to be a class above a load of the k1 max opposition, sometimes almost like he was watching his opponent in slow motion and probably got a bit lazy ended up getting robbed on points a few time and eventually put down. He s one fighter that didnt really seem to improve in the last couple of years because he had no real incentive , he was so much better than all of them and getting a dodgy points loss here and there didnt stop him being considered the best by everyone including himself.
William.... some good ones there
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I watched the fight Jomhod-Buakaw from ringside in Stockholm, and must say the match-up was pretty much a WMC generation shift. Jomhod being very experienced and having a big register of fearsome techniques (the spinning elbow etc) but still old and inactive, Buakaw a lot more active, stronger, younger. So wouldnt say the match-up was fair enough, and the outcome might have been a lot different if both been in their primes. But cant take away from Buakaw that he is smart.
Many people is curious to see him fight as equally smart and rhytmic opponents like Khem Sitsongpeenong, Saiyok etc but does not seem to happen.
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[quote=prana16][quote=yodtimklai][quote=Zuskan]
Train for a few weeks, beat up a tuk tuk driver then go have a few beers and go home saying your a beast at muay thai.[/quote]
that's half the guys that go to thailand now[/quote]
He forgot the most important part though.. rack up training at as many obscure gyms as you can find, collect em like baseball cards.. that adds waaaaaaay more cred. to your r34lz muay thai. [/quote]
Yeah an collect a tshirt and photos for each one you go to lol
And put a sock on your pickle...
Yeah. I'm female. You didn't know?
i agree. i reckon simple partner drills brings out so much. i do this more often now that i have a dutch coach as they tend to do this type of training more than thais.
im all for a balanced routine, pads, bag, sparring, clinching, drill work.
each has its own merits.
no problem, the gym is inside a temple grounds, will try and find the name of the temple!
I would say Tony's for sure. First off he is amazingly friendly and the food at his restaurant is great. He can do anything for you.. scooter rental, visa run, hookers, suzy wong runs.. you know the basics. I just got done staying there.. Decided to get a luxury villa in rawai with a few friends..
lol sounds good aaron, 45 degrees towards which direction? left, yeah?
will & blake, how can you fight without having any idea of what kind of combos you're gonna do?
Yeah. That's what I mean. Seriously, he looks the same build as me almost identically. But yes, I doubt my cardio is anything like his.
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This old dude should answer all your querys and basically backs up everything I said:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZNY5_S6B9A[/url]
think he is refering to getting a double or triple entry one? You can get those at most embassies in your hone countries I think.
lanna muay or chay yai gym? which one would be best for me. I'm a begginer, and want some where friendly but hard training at a good price.
Hello everybody,
I'll come one month to train this august.... and I was wondering which city is the least polluted one, with more parks and places to run...
I want to train hard, not to get a lung cancer :D:D:P
Hi,
I am in Thailand training at True bee gym in Pai and its great. Problem is that I have nearly stayed in Thailand 3months, and I understand that is the maximum you are allowed to stay in a 6 month period. I am determined to stay for another couple of months though. I have been told you can go to Laos and apply for more time there? Does anyone know anything about how i can get another couple of months Visa to stay in Thailand.
Thanks alot
Whoa, that video is crazy! Not least because I don't really understand what happened. The two guys were about to fight (classic body language with the chest pushing and the pointing and stuff -basically says "I don't want to fight and I really hope you don't either but I also don't want to look soft"), but it's the way they make up and then suddenly one of them -almost without even looking- just smacks some passing girl in the face for absoutely no apparent reason.
The girl's boyfriend did the right thing. He's definitely trained in boxing before. Those guys didn't know what hit them. I also love how after he's done and the girl and guy walk off the two guys get up, brush themselves off and walk away like nothing happened.
I'd love to know what they were all saying to each other.
"YOU hit that girl!"
"No, YOU should hit that girl! I'll hit you if you don't"
"I don't want to. Her boyfriend might be a hard bastard boxer"
"Okay then, I'll hit that girl"
*hit*
BAM BAM WHHACK SMACK CRACK BAM BAM
"Shit, he was a hard bastard boxer after all"
"You were right. Ah well, let's go home and nurser our injuries".
Has anyone trained there recently? camp looks good, how much attention do u get from the trainers though, whats the sparring, clinch and padwork like? No need for a bike to get places from this camp?
Hi mate! not entirely wrong...Khmer meaning Cambodian, loads of unnecessary disputre re the origins of SE Asian fighting arts, you can find info on the net so i wont yabber on! but Pradal Serey is basically the Khmer version of Muay Thai: i think the burmese have Lethwei, and its called Tomoi in Malaysia-basically same, hands, feet, knees, elbows etc
BTW you know anyone here going to Keatkhamtorn in July? i'm plannin a 3 week training hol there
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man i can second what hawkman said. ive felt like crying sometimes when a familiar sound or smell gets to you. right now i really want to chuck in the job and bolt for thailand....but i dont have enough cash!!!
[quote=Patrick][quote=ligsyh]A normal back packers insurance will cover your training.
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Wrong.
Cheap backpacker insurance will not cover injuries from contact sports, whether it be training or fighting. Read the small print.
Doesn't stop you lying about how you got injured of course.[/quote]
that's exactly what my plan is. if i get real fucked up in a fight and they ask me what happened at the hospital i'll just say, "i fell."
Beer is a double edged sword, for me. If you're into weight gain and bulking up, beer will help stack it on. So I had no problem with drinking it, really. However, I could not drink the day before I train or I could not train, so I only drank when I was sure I was not training the next day (which was actually quite a lot, like 3 out of 7 days a week, usually I finish training and I trained too hard or something, I know I can't train tomorrow, so I spend the evening drinking beer and eating pizza).
However, although my long term drinking has helped me reach my size and power goals (stacking on 35 kilo in just over a year), I currently have the flu. I've had the flu for the past 2 weeks... it sux. I never usually have the flu for more than 5 days, and I've never had it for over a week before. I'm blaming the beer. I think processing it has made my liver weaker; they're too busy burning up the alcohol they don't have time to kill the flu. So I'm going to have to slow down a lot.
So Blake's right; I think you'll be a lot healthier and probably more energetic without grog, too, and won't get the fucking flu like this...
As for cigis; they have no benefit to the body whatsoever. The answer is simple; the better you want to be at Muay Thai, the less you'll smoke. If you're serious about it, you won't smoke at all.
Did the Cheeta encounter in the World's dullest capital city (Canberra) - it was awesome. About 20 minutes with 3 of them, rolling around in the hay, feeding them etc etc
I think I would shit my pants with a tiger though. In fact, I know I would.
Chok Dee,thanx a bunch.U can expect 2 c me some time after the 19th-Dec.I'm going 2 put everything into my training while i'm there...Can i just turn up and speak 2 somebody about training or do i have 2 book my place?I already have my own accommodation...
Every time i click buy the dvd and hit purchase it does not transfer it to my cart. Can anyone tell me what i need to do to make it work
[quote=marcusb]One more question is there any fee on the double tourist visa itself prior to extension?[/quote]
In Laos, the cost is 1000 Baht per entry, so 2000 Baht for a double-entry. In your home country, the cost should be about the equivalent in your local currency.
Sometimes tourist visas are free, in order to encourage tourism, but I don't believe that they are just now.
that does sound cool. but hard to tell if it was from a tat or not. i remember reading in the chiang mai mail about a muaythai teacher in chiang mai blessing rice grains for his boxers to chew before the fights, he got his wife to attack him with a knife thinking he wouldn get cut....the result.....he got cut to shreds and ended up in hospital nearly dead.
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Err, I'd just like to point out that I put his first video up because I found it funny how angry he seemed, not because I think he's a faker or something.
I'm sure he'd kick most people's ass back to Tuesday if it came down to it. I don't want it to look like I'm hAtiNg or some gay shit like that.
Yeah, dude, I live in Phuket permanently. Tiger is my gym.
Been browsing different camp sites (incl the MTL one) and I am beginning to lean towards Keatkhamtorn... So far I´ve only read good things about the camp. Pro/cons anyone?
Hello people, ill be going to thailand for 3 months soon and was wondering how easy is it to get supplements vitamins and things like that? Also what sort of prices am i looking to pay, would it be similar as in UK or Europe?
Thanks
thought you were posting about me then :p
go back to playing ninja anna
It was all these type of shinanigans that made him spit his dummy out.
I'm sure he's secretly still looking in.
LOL
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Hi Marcus - thanks for the kind words! :)
Mister Bee ( Moonkondech sittepithak) and Mister Ae from TrueBee are excellent in teaching beginners the skills of Muay Thai.
Feel free to visit our website;
www.truebee.com
Good luck with finding the right gym!
Trudy
[quote=Hawkman]coconut water - from the coconut itself
t is 100% sterile as it has never been exposed to air
it has the similar ratio of salts/sugars as your blood. It can actually be used as a substitute for a saline drip in locations where they dont have these readily available.
So if you are dehydrated after the shits or anything else it will assist your body in recovery quicker than just water or electrolyte drinks
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Thanx HawkMan
Not being funny, but you should really try and do a lot more research as it is far from as simple and black and white as you are making out there. The bbc, cnn etc... Have done a very lazy job of the whole thing
gixxer WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT ABOMINATION??????????
Looks great. Best of luck. I wish I could clean.... or fight!!!
a friend of mine linked this to me i couldnt stop laughing .....
There's some gym reviews on this site - people seem to like Chai Yai a lot... Train back home before going to Thailand. Then, you'll hopefully be able to recognise what's good and what isn't.
Who says you can't compare different gyms? Go to one, look at it, go to another, look at it, decide which is best for you.
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it s worth metioning that if u do paid teaching work in thailand and you dont have the legit papers youre in shit and they will kick you out
plus there are a lot of guys who do actually have the papers and want to make a living out there, but backpackers and non legit schools just end up tarring everyone with the same brush.
You won't be able to get your Russian visa as you go - you need to be invited into the country and obtain a visa in advance (takes weeks), submit an itinerary for the whole time you are there, and register at each town you stay in for more than 3 days.
Best thing to do for this leg is speak to an agent, tell them what you want to do, and ask how much to arrange for you. Check these links out.
http://www.seat61.com/Trans-Siberian.htm
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Trans-Siberian-Handbook-Trailblazer-Bryn-Thomas/dp/1873756941/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271332827&sr=8-2
[quote=stp]I arrive on March 21st as well![/quote]
nice 1.
have you much exp?
im a total beginner.
Do I sense some Van "Damage" from Dave. Man, everyone knows Van Damne could easily beat any Thai fighter in real life. That is if his stare alone didn't knock them out. He would single handedly (wearing a very tight ridiculous looking shirt) destroy the top Thai competition. Damn Dave where have you been. Psshhh
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Anyway, don't go to Koh Samui, dude. It is not safe. That is a serious warning.
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why? I was looking on the site of the thai police, and phuket is one of the tourist place in thailand with the lowest crime rate...
Is there any disease i should be aware of? (remember I won't there for sex)
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There is no chilly islands either, dude. This is the tropics. The coolest places are found inland, and around Christmas time.
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that's right, but many tourist guide advise to go to eastern thailand to avoid monson in august....
http://www.kohsamui.org/weather.html
http://www.phuketoceanvillas.com/phuket-climate.asp
phuket looks cooler... but it has double the rains :D do you think that this still doesn't matter?
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Pollution is no problem anywhere in Thailand. Don't be a girl.
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they usually say bangkok is one of the most polluted city is south asia... since I come from the most polluted city in europe... I would feel like I've not moved from home :D:D:D:D:p:p
thank you man, your help is really apprecieted...
[quote=Aarayan]On the subject of falangs acting like dicks, I'm sure it's a question that's been asked about 4 thousand times, but just how conservative should women dress when they're visiting Chiang Mai. I'm not the hotpants type, so I was intending knee-length or below cotton skirts, with vest tops, but are vest tops a no-no? I've heard conflicting advice. Also, what about sandals given the whole dislike of feet issue? And what about when training - can women wear cropped sports tops, or what? I really really don't want a) a big row or b) everyone to think I'm a whore, c) to offend everyone and have everyone assume I'm American.[/quote]
That last dick comment you made alone would probably have some thinking you are American.
Pretty hypocritical of most of you to say these things about Americans(how they have no tact... ect ect.) just to be doing the same thing yourselves, when you are fully aware that Americans post here regularly
Seems this site is quite spam prone...
But why are there so many hoes from there? Does the place have lower than average moral standards?
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what kind of supplements are we talking about here?
walk man i'm thinking of doing the same thing you are doing...i have been in contact with will from tiger muay thai in phuket...there are some schools down there and you can work part time and train well it seems like...i teach full time here in the u.s. and train pretty much everyday but you can't live and work part time here in the u.s. so and extra training i get in thailand is gravy
fuck im off line for abit and i get verbally abused by u lot. that pic was at riversdie restaurant
anyway as for not training muaythai..i have been...and i foguth recently and took the WMC nz light middle weight title.... so fuck u all !!
I've trained at Kaewsamrit and Fairtex Pattaya. For the training people pay over here in the States the price at Fairtex Pattaya is cheap. I make an annual pilgrimage to both gyms since both of them have treated me very well. I'll be back at both gyms again this July and August. The majority of my training will be at Kaewsamrit before I finish up at Fairtex Pattaya. I'll also be doing a short stint at Legacy.
Honestly, I really don't know why people complain about Fairtex. 80 US dollars a day for two training sessions, a room that looks like a hotel suite, and 2 meals does seem expensive compared to other gyms but consider what people pay for private lessons these days. People pay over 100 US just for a hotel room in Vegas.
well, you know there's many stray dogs around. well, lets just say it's less complicated then the 3 sea shells
There are a lot of women training at Tiger right now (including myself). The gym doesn't "support" trainers harassing female guests, it's just something that may happen every once in a while at pretty much any camp that caters to foreigners. They take those kind of complaints very seriously [b]if you speak with one of the staff[/b]. I've been here for a long time and have never had a problem.
Tons of gyms welcome female guests. You really don't have anything to worry about in that regard.
You can easely ask Antonio Graceffo about Muay Lao in Vientian, Paddy´s gym in Phnom Penh and also Vietnam - I think he is supposed to be back in Thailand now from training Viet Vo Dao there in Vietnam. He is nice person and I'm sure he'll explain you everything you need
Nah, a lot of old school fighters slap their face with their shoulder when they punch... I suspect he's the same
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loved the gay moped pose. Seriously though youre gonna have to clean the place up a bit.
um, yeah of course JWP.
i just like sorens thai style thats all.
I have no problem if iam the only farang training, i only want to train hard
just in europe, if you fight in either Lumpini or Ratchadamnern you need to bring your passport along, other than that no
Sorry I forgot to write we also have a website :
www.true-bee.com
I saw a guy on eBay a LOOONG time ago who was selling some, so I bought a pair (they're actually Thai fisherman shorts, and I asked Ajarn Chai about it and he said that's pretty much the traditional Muay Boran dress, but with a scarf thing too...which I also bought). Another dude was selling ropes with the intention of wrapping your hands in them for Muay Boran, so I bought some of that too. In any case, he's not on eBay anymore and some cheap bastard is selling shitty string and red shorts and trying to convince people it's Muay Boran gear. Go to www.ancientmuaythai.com and ask Kruu Pedro Villalobos if he knows where you can get some. I'll be there for a week or so when I'm in Chiang Mai, so I'll take a look also let you know what I find. Maybe I can ship something to you.
and ps: putting two condoms on can be worse because the friction iincreases the probability of them ripping...
Firstly, in my opinion, you should mind about prices being bumped up for foreigners. You might not be that much more more wealthy than the Thais than you think.
The Rawai site article must have been written some time ago if 900 THB was equivalent to £7. That's an exchange rate of 128 THB/£. 900 THB is still a massive amount of money just for food every day. Depending on where you choose to dine anything upto 300/day should be OK.
I'm going in March and I must admit that the current exchange rate is dissapointing, but what can we do. It's about 20% less than this time last year. Perhaps budget to have a couple of beers less or just have a ladyboy every other day!
I've been in Thailand when I was getting 33 THB/£ and also when I was getting 90 THB/£ so it's all swings and roundabouts.
Perhaps the US$ or Euros are more stable than the £ at the moment. It might be an idea to get traveller's cheques in these currencies just in case the £ takes a dive. Who knows what can happen?
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hahaha. damn, i havent had a stalker for a while ! and this one isnt even real !!
Hello mtnow!
The costs are as follows:
1200bth / day
7000bth / week
25.000bth / month
This is an all-inclusive package to live a yet simple, but good lifestyle as a boxer in Bangkok. We provide airport pick-up & transfer, shared air-con+fan room with attached toilet and shower, training twice a day x 6 (Sundays are off), food twice a day, WiFi/PC/Hi-speed Internet access, water for and inbetween training sessions, coffee, washing machine access.
If there is anything else you would like to now you can send me an PM for definite answers or read about our guests own experiences on the net:
http://thoughtfulfight.wordpress.com/
http://www.andrewmuaythai.blogspot.com/
http://muaythaimarcus.blogspot.com/
[quote=robsanklai]fuck that. i had one of the worst experiences training i have ever had training there. we were pushed around like cattle into different areas way too many ppl. i had to clinch with some big fat waster who had to stop every minute get his breath back, it was like clinching with a 25 stone potatoe. my mate didnt even get a round with a trainer the whole day i did and got abused by that lttle cunt robert lek, talk about first impressions but i suppose they dont have to care about that when so many ppl go there. when i left i wonderded 'why do so many ppl go there, i still wonder now. maybe its changed.
i didnt go back again.[/quote]
Love this post, absolutely hated Robert Lek not a good place to go if you are a single female by the way, all the trainers have wives but sleaze on you and sometimes totally inappropiate(lets just say I saw something i asked not to see lol)
A lot of times you get hurt sparring cos it is like the blind leading the blind and people always trying to prove something. The training is silly hours starting at 7am is waaaay too late and the trainers expect you to do drills they wouldn't even do. Some of the trainers are awesome and it's great if you get pad time with them but I often found we were doing ten bag rounds before we were even taken on pads and the whinged at cos we had no power!
I think it's a great place if you are staying short term but for people staying long term you get ignored a lot....nice to hear some mixed reviews here. I did learn quite a bit of technique at this place but got really stressed here mainly caused by some trainers making life very difficult for me because I wasen't the typical falang girl on holiday that they may be used to *ahem
or move away from some shit hole tourist area which attracts the lowest of both Thai's and foriegners
hahahhaha, no way man. kickboxing in thailand doesnt exist....its all muaythai !
go to a muaythai gym you wont be disappointed.
[quote=paul88] Thats absolute bull tbh , If you really put the hard work in and had the ambition to do it theres nothing to say you couldnt be a top ranked fighter atleast in your own country. [/quote]
This is what a young kid grown up in modern individualistic society would say, very normal though. We (i am also 26) are raised by our parents with the idea that we are all special. 'You can become president of the usa, littlle stevie, you just need to work hard and keep dreaming!', that kind of talk. The sad fact is that 99,99 percent of human beings are not special. You are just an average Joe with an average intelligence and average body. It is hard for people to accept nowadays that they are not special and never will be special. It is good to be positive and try to achieve something but never forget there is always someone better, faster and smarter than you. And you are (probably) not special at all. If that thought makes you angry or upset you need to think about why.
[quote=paul88] if you could train in thailand for a year+ and had a good gym in your own country and of course truly had the ambition and drive for it in 5+ years you would still only be 27 and could be a decent level fighter. [/quote]
training in thailand is not some miracle pill that will make you some super athlete. and being 'only' 27 is pretty old for an athlete to start his career, but I agree possible. In my humble opinion you need a very large amount of talent if you want to break through and become pro at that age to make up for the lack of experience and an older body. That talent should have manifested itself in that first year. If it didn't you are simply not talented enough. You are just an average Joe.
let's just agree to disagree
to end my post some wise words from a wise man ;)
Sounds very nice! Wish I was in Thailand... Sweden is getting cold this time of the year
What about slipping a piece of flexible tubing or hose pipe over it.
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[quote=Benji]How much is a good amount of money to spend for a three month stay?[/quote]
30000b (about $1000) a month is a nice amount. You can certainly do it for less particularly if you were to stay say in chiang mai and rent an apartment.
In chiang mai you'd have some $ left over for other things
In Phuket after training, accom, food, transport (rent your on scooter ~4000b don't fuck around with tuk tuks and taxis here) you would not have much left.
Dragn, I agree that the mid is the biggest hurdle. That's why I'm a big believer in actually competeing: people that say sparring is the same have no idea what they are talking about.
Hey, are you still in Japan?
HAHA "if a man could fuck a woman in a cardboard box he wouldnt buy a house"
Sorry about that last post. It can't have been my fault.
What do you want to do in Bangkok and what's your budget per night?
My choice would be Sukhumvit, but I would expect to pay around 600 Baht minimum for a crappy room and about 900 to silly money for a good room.
Expect Khao San area to be a bit cheaper and it's a bit back-packy. Good for old town and main temples.
There's plenty of action around Sukhumvit Rd: hotels, restaurants, shopping, bars etc. Not much sight-seeing, but very good transport links to everywhere.
Good value hotels I'd recommend on Sukhumvit are Pinnacle Sukhumvit Inn on Soi 3 (900'ish Baht), Nana City Inn (1000'ish Baht) and Happy Inn (?,probably about 900'ish) on Soi 4.
H.
I know I havn't posted in the forums for a while but I just moved across the border and haven't had any access to a decent internet connection, so I feel a little akward making this my first post in months but....I recieved a spam through my inbox on this forum from someone called amicablehome. It starts out with:
"This mail and the information contained therein that I am about to reveal to you can either destroy or ruin my life, depending on how you received and take it, the future and my happiness depends on it"
yup - destroy or ruin. I think it did neither. Or perhaps both. Oi, Dave, do your thing.
Has anyone been to Suwit Camp in Phuket to train? I visited the camp website and they only have 6 rooms for trainees. How are the accomodations near the camp? I'm looking for basic accomodation, a room with a single bed, tv, bathroom, refridgerator, fan. Are there many farang training there? Tiger Muay Thai in Phuket has everything a nak muay needs but it seems that they are inundated with A LOT of farang! I would prefer a camp with a higher thai to farang ratio.
[quote=muaythaifocus]o.k another question for you and not a dig, why do you assume that is the ultimate fighters physique?[/quote]Because it provides not just power, as in the powerlifter example above where they've still too much fat to have any decent cardio, but it also has cardio.
Of course, this is a superheavyweight physique. But looking at the lightweight Thais, if any of them were to actualy go superheavyweight, what would their build be like? It's be ripped like this, no?
Rob, if you were to dream up the ultimate superheavyweight physique and conditioning, what would it be like? Tell me I'm wrong.
One constant problem with females training in Thailand is understanding the spiritual side of things when it comes to girls training in gyms, as a lot of gyms and fighters believe that women and being close to them will somehow weaken them. You see it in some gyms females are not allowed in the ring, Lumpini and Ratchadamnern stadium they even get upset if a women looks like she will go up and touch the ring and none are allowed to fight there, most places where women do fight they have to go under the ropes instead of over like the male counterparts. These beliefs can also play a part in why they are reluctant to clinch etc...It is not a personal thing and some can take it the wrong way, but it is a belief that can be deeply routed
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that booked worked for me man. yes i can do splits no warm up. and havent u ever heard dont judge a book by its cover.
go back to thailand
Thats funny stuff....does it go on more? I'm starting to get into it! haha
How much do you currently train in NZ? it cant be as much as Thailand anyway can it???
Hey there, have you tried Kai Singthong over on East Hastings? We have training 5 or 6 days a week. Also, totally know what you mean about missing Lanna and busy schedules. Shoot me a message if you want info on the gym...
From what i know there arent any thai fighters that train there. There are trainers that fight ,if thats what you mean. I think you will find that the trainers have to fight to keep the name of the gym circulating at the stadium as that is a good bit of advertising (but this happens at most gyms).
Having trained at Tiger for three months, your article seems a little bit too good to be true (almost like it has been written by someone that works at the gym posing as a "guest"). It is a great camp in terms of facilities and the training isnt bad but they dont pay much attention to technique and it seems to me that the system is made to push you towards private lessons.
Your article comes as a surprise to me as all i have heard from the big table at Tony's for the last month is bickering and complaints about Tiger and how a lot of people weren't happy with the group classes so have passed on to privates or gone to Dragon. It also seems like there have been a lot of changes in staff lately but this might just be a case of "out with the old and in with the new".
Hi Keke!
I'd say that it obviously depends on who you're sparring with. There's no set strength that everyone has to hit at. Like Blake said, the more experienced boxers will be able to control themeselves a lot more and understand that it's about technique more than it is about KOing your partner. The lesser experienced guys are the ones who tend to get carried away and go all out, wading in with arms flailing, thinking that this is how Muay Thai is.
And haha at what Blake said about Nok! I can just imagine it. You pad up to have a spar with him but after a round or so something's not quite right. That trademark grin suddenly fades and Nok's back in his prime, with a crowd of 10,000 cheering him on, and you're the only thing between him and victory...
I cook about 30% of my own meals and I live here long term. It's just so easy to buy take aways, and it costs about the same.
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